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Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! I tried to see if it was on the website for the newspaper but its not. So tommorrow when I have more time I will type the letter out here for you all. Its rather long and I am amazed they printed it all! I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more; that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting) is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise; that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it; and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
The last paragraph says more than any weight loss book or study ever published!
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Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more.
.I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened.
I don’t and will not exercise every single day. And I am on a 1,200 calorie diet, which is now balanced and not as high-carb as the "Pyramid". Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse.
I would tend to agree wholeheartedly with you on these points. Weight Watchers, the worst purveyors of the "everything will be hunky-dory after you lose the weight" mind-set was a pastime in my youth (although they got my sister as a Lifetime member). I was able to keep weight off for about eight months as an over-35-age woman on Deal-A-Meal. Folks, NOT his Maintenance plan, but Richard Simmons’ own 1,300-calorie REDUCING plan. Then, of course like such things do, it got to feeling restrictive. I didn’t pig out or anything, just ate a tiny bit more and before I turned around over 25 pounds had reappeared. I did not exercise very regularly, but I caretook my then-boyfriend’s elderly and terminally ill mother and maintained two households in addition to a full time job. Since then, I have been treated for hypercholesterolemia, but also I am contemplating a life change to a possibly less stressful environment in many ways, and a lifestyle (perhaps semi-entrepreneurial) in which I might have a modicum of control. So I’m doing it … Tina
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Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more.
And what exactly is wrong with limiting ones caloric intake? This person can simply increase her calories by a few and maintain her new weight, without further weight loss or gain occuring. I don’t see the problem, nor do I see the logic in assuming that everyone who diets for weight loss is destined to fail. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss.
Dieting can be and is a permanent solution to excess weight. Millions of dieters have lost weight with no regain. Staying on a healthy plan for living after initial weight loss is what separates the successful dieters from the regainers. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened.
You limited your caloric intake. Guess what, princess? That’s called a diet. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!)
Oh for fucks sake. Might as well stay fat if it’s cheaper to not have to buy new clothes. Seriously, this is one of the more pathetic cops outs I’ve seen. Did you not have to buy new clothes as you got fatter in the first place? Did you gain weight perfectly symetrically? Do you think the sagging, bagging, fat-filled flesh rolls is somehow MORE attractive than loose skin? Bear in mind, people who are extremely obese have the sagging skin problem. Moderately overweight people do not. In order to avoid the whole sagging skin thing, people should not let themselves get that fat. . You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be.
Spoken like a true food addict who is not willing to let go of her addiction. Try re-reading this letter with alcoholism in place of the "better to stay fat" mentality and sobriety in place of getting thin. Maybe that will shed some light on what fat acceptance is truly about: Permission from society to stay fat and stay addicted. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse.
Then, obviously, weight is one of many problems for you. Why are you expecting weight loss to cure everything? Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
If you truly loved yourself, you’d take care of your body by excercising and not stuffing your face with excess calories.
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And what exactly is wrong with limiting ones caloric intake? This person can simply increase her calories by a few and maintain her new weight, without further weight loss or gain occuring. I don’t see the problem, nor do I see the logic in assuming that everyone who diets for weight loss is destined to fail. You limited your caloric intake. Guess what, princess? That’s called a diet.
Dieting to me implys a temporary change of eating to lose weight. As soon as you lose the weight you want, you stop the diet. You need to change you eating and exercise habits FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. That’s not a diet. It’s a change of lifestyle. In order to avoid the whole sagging skin thing, people should not let
themselves get that fat. That’s awful! Do you honestly think that people out there are thinking, "You know, fat people clothes are so pretty. Who needs the convience of walking into any store and buying what I want. I think I’ll let myself gain weight and look like a couch." I did not ‘let’ myself get fat. A variety of things led me to eat more that I should, and I’m now trying to deal with it. If you truly loved yourself, you’d take care of your body by excercising and not stuffing your face with excess calories.
I don’t know about other overweight people, but I can tell you that I didn’t love myself when I was inactive and overeating. I do agree that there are problems when you lose a lot of weight, but getting a tummy tuck is a small price to pay for being fit and healthy. You can always shop at thrift/outlet stores until you’re at your goal weight and can buy a new wardrobe. Susan
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! I tried to see if it was on the website for the newspaper but its not. So tommorrow when I have more time I will type the letter out here for you all. Its rather long and I am amazed they printed it all! I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more; that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting) is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise; that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it; and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
I think your last sentence is an cop-out, not a philosophy. Losing weight and loving yourself are not mutually exclusive. I have a positive outlook on life, and like myself fat *or* thin, but am much healthier and treated better by others when I am thinner. I feel better about myself when I know I look good, and anyone who says they don’t isn’t telling the truth. It sounds like you’re saying you’re the opposite — it doesn’t matter if you’re fat or thin, you don’t like yourself anyway. I don’t really understand the point of your letter. Sounds as if are trying to make an argument for staying fat? Peter http://users.thelink.net/marengo
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Try re-reading this letter with alcoholism in place of the "better to stay fat" mentality and sobriety in place of getting thin. Maybe that will shed some light on what fat acceptance is truly about: Permission from society to stay fat and stay addicted.
They don’t need permission. They’re after approval.
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Warning: possible Troll alert – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! I tried to see if it was on the website for the newspaper but its not. So tommorrow when I have more time I will type the letter out here for you all. Its rather long and I am amazed they printed it all! I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more; that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting) is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise; that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it; and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
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Permission from society to stay fat and stay addicted. They don’t need permission. They’re after approval. Fooled by yet another troll who doesn’t know all the facts. Anita did not post the message to all these groups (check the headers; it was reposted). Anita happens to have lost a lot of weight recently due to some medical condition, so what exactly is she addicted to?
Prescription drugs?
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Try re-reading this letter with alcoholism in place of the "better to stay fat" mentality and sobriety in place of getting thin. Maybe that will shed some light on what fat acceptance is truly about: Permission from society to stay fat and stay addicted. They don’t need permission. They’re after approval.
Fooled by yet another troll who doesn’t know all the facts. Anita did not post the message to all these groups (check the headers; it was reposted). Anita happens to have lost a lot of weight recently due to some medical condition, so what exactly is she addicted to? Robin
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Part of loving myself is losing weight, I will never be able to eat like other people and my grandfather always said it was the fattest hogs that froze to death first, Lee
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! I tried to see if it was on the website for the newspaper but its not. So tommorrow when I have more time I will type the letter out here for you all. Its rather long and I am amazed they printed it all! I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more; that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting) is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise; that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it; and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
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Itt’s a lot harder toreally love an extra 144 pounds of yoyrself and i think those who say it diesn’;t matter are lyiing unless they live in isolation from 21st century society. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body. The last paragraph says more than any weight loss book or study ever published!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try re-reading this letter with alcoholism in place of the "better to stay fat" mentality and sobriety in place of getting thin. Maybe that will shed some light on what fat acceptance is truly about: Permission from society to stay fat and stay addicted. They don’t need permission. They’re after approval. Fooled by yet another troll who doesn’t know all the facts. Anita did not post the message to all these groups (check the headers; it was reposted).
What possible difference does this make? She still wrote the orignal post. You morons seem to think if someone doesn’t do the sending their words don’t count anymore. Anita happens to have lost a lot of weight recently due to some medical condition, so what exactly is she addicted to?
FA stupidity? Jade – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Robin KKKing
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Troll. Plonk! Into the ignore pile. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! I tried to see if it was on the website for the newspaper but its not. So tommorrow when I have more time I will type the letter out here for you all. Its rather long and I am amazed they printed it all! I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more; that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting) is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise; that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it; and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! I tried to see if it was on the website for the newspaper but its not. So tommorrow when I have more time I will type the letter out here for you all. Its rather long and I am amazed they printed it all! I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more; that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting) is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise; that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it; and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body. I think your last sentence is an cop-out, not a philosophy. Losing weight and loving yourself are not mutually exclusive. I have a positive outlook on life, and like myself fat *or* thin, but am much healthier and treated better by others when I am thinner. I feel better about myself when I know I look good, and anyone who says they don’t isn’t telling the truth. It sounds like you’re saying you’re the opposite — it doesn’t matter if you’re fat or thin, you don’t like yourself anyway. I don’t really understand the point of your letter. Sounds as if are trying to make an argument for staying fat? Peter http://users.thelink.net/marengo
I think just the opposite. If you define love as care and respect for yourself, wouldn’t it be that much easier to make the right decisions about the food you put into your body? After all, would I abuse anything or anyone else that I loved? On the other hand, if I regard myself as worthless, why not overindulge?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! snip This is quite surprising, inasmuch as most newspapers simply refuse to print letters written by fat people. I know this for a fact. miguel
Tell me Miguel how you know that "most" newspapers will not print letters from overweight people?…Can a letter have fat DNA on it?…GG Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free…scanned by NAV 2002…Version 8.07.17C
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[...] I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more;
Has anybody studied what happens to fat bashers who try to stop bashing fat people? I bet at least 96% of fat bashers who try to stop eventually gain back all their fat bashing habits plus more. But this will never stop anti-fat bashers from futilely scolding fat bashers—as if ridiculing them would make them stop. Most people have a very hard time accepting others who are different, so it’s not surprising that some people have a hard time accepting fat bashers. that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting)
If "yo-yo dieting" can cause a "metabolic problem" which allows a person to subsist on substantially fewer calories, why hasn’t the military exploited that? The limiting factor for infantry soldiers is how much gear they can carry. To stay alive in the field they have to carry a lot of food. The amount they can carry limits the length of time they can operate before resupply. If a soldier could reduce his daily calorie need via a program of yo-yo dieting, the Army would incorporate that into basic training as an essential survival skill (along with training soldiers to eat grasshoppers in an emergency). If we can believe the fantastic claims of fat acceptors, a training program of yo-yo dieting would create super soldiers, capable of sustaining field maneuvers for days on end on a fraction of the standard ration. is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise;
Exercise is not strictly necessary for maintaining ideal weight, but for some reason exercise seems to make it easier. Exercise increases a person’s calorie expenditure but for some reason it does not seem to stimulate a person’s appetite by the same amount. It’s almost as if a person’s body senses the need to be mobile and adjusts the person’s appetite as necessary to begin shedding excess fat. that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it;
That’s not obvious. By losing 100 pounds you may have avoided contracting some horrible obesity-related disease by now. Your claim is like the claim of a smoker who quits smoking and says he doesn’t feel any better for it. He’s assuming that he could have kept smoking without feeling worse. But if he kept smoking he might have had a heart attack, contracted lung disease, throat cancer, etc. Losing 100 pounds might not make a dramatic difference in a person’s life who still needs to lose another 100 pounds. For example, positive feedback from others is unlikely to be forthcoming until the overweight person loses enough weight to start looking good. A person who is overcoming gluttony realizes almost all the cosmetic benefits very near to the end of the journey. It’s similar to learning to play a musical instrument. An aspiring musician might have to practice scales, note-reading, etc. for months or even years before he learns to play well enough to be entertaining to people. At first he will have to work hard for a long time without much encouragement from others. If anything, people will ridicule his initial efforts because his playing will probably suck at first. and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight.
You seem to be assuming you would still be alive if you had not lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more.
Terry Shock does not need to stay on any particular diet plan. She merely has to restrict her calorie intake to her maintenance level. The types of foods she eats do not matter; only her total calorie intake matters. As long as Terry Shock weighs herself every week (under the same conditions), she will detect any weight gain early. If she does start gaining weight, she will know that her gluttonous habits are creeping back, and she can merely resume her diet plan of choice for a few weeks to get back under control. It’s like checking the speedometer in a car. A driver doesn’t have to stare at the speedometer constantly. He learns to subconsciously judge how fast he is driving. Nonetheless, he needs to check the speedometer occasionally to make sure his speed is not gradually creeping up. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss.
Which is to say, dieters who regain weight do so because they stop dieting and resume their gluttony. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened.
In most areas of life, things are easier to accomplish when people set specific goals and then figure out exactly what they need to do to reach their goals. Having to pretend one is not really interested in reaching the goal one nonetheless labors to reach is probably a symptom of mental illness. If a person practices the piano every day while denying that he wants to become a piano player would we not say he is insane? Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business.
Don’t be silly. America is full of obese gluttons and yet almost everyone treats slender people better than fat people. Thus there are vast numbers of people who cannot restrain their eating on their own, who nonetheless understand the deleterious effects of obesity. Therefore the diet industry will never lack for customers. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations;
The same logic applies to gaining weight, but how many fat acceptors use that as an argument against porking up? you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly.
This is not the fault of losing weight but of gaining the weight in the first place. And if looking ugly is a problem how is staying fat going to help? You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would
This is why loving parents encourage their children not to get fat. Years of gluttony can cause permanent disfigurement. (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!)
Overcoming gluttony won’t turn every fat person into a supermodel, but almost every fat person can become less visually disturbing to others by losing weight. There are lots of slender people who aren’t particularly attractive. But few of them make me want to puke. Even if a person has to keep clothes on for the "after" pictures at least they look good in clothes. That’s more than you can say for any obese person. Obese people look disgusting whether naked or clothed. You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that;
Not only does blubber insulate, but the larger muscles you had to grow to heave all that fat around boosted your metabolism by an extra 500-1500 kcal/day, thereby generating much more heat. If you feel cold, put on some clothes. I’m not fat, and I set my thermostat to 45 degrees F in the winter. It’s no problem with a few layers of fleece. Another option is to exercise with weights, so you can regrow some of the muscle you lost after you no longer needed the strength to hoist vast amounts of fat weight. you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women,
You left out "sedentary." Another risk factor for osteoporosis is a chronic lack of load-bearing exercise. and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.)
If estrogen is stored in fat cells, how is the estrogen available for stimulating bone growth? The estrogen has to move out of fat cells and into bone cells to do that. Estrogen in one part of the body isn’t going to change the behavior of another part. After a woman … read more »
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! snip This is quite surprising, inasmuch as most newspapers simply refuse to print letters written by fat people. I know this for a fact. miguel Tell me Miguel how you know that "most" newspapers will not print letters from overweight people?…Can a letter have fat DNA on it?…GG Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free…scanned by NAV 2002…Version 8.07.17C Get a real newsreader and I’ll answer your question.
What are you talking about?…Are we dealing with a fat head here?…GG
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Often the effects are subtle. For example, a man might through years of habitual exercise transform himself from scrawny to fairly muscular. If he does this, the masses are unlikely to bow down by the thousands to worship him. He might go through his everyday life and not notice much difference at all. But there are differences. Little jobs will become easier if he has more strength. He will get a little more respect. Most beautiful women might still generally ignore him, but now he might have a chance of attracting 5% of them instead of 1%. If he happens to meet and fall in love with one of those women in the 4% he could not
otherwise have attracted, That’s true enough, and I understand it, even though I am not a man and I don’t weight train much… Suppose Mozart came back from the dead and he went into an inner-city slum and played his music on the street corner. Most of the homies would probably ignore him, at best.
That’s why we have to really jazz it up!! No, we may not wear bikinis as a general rule. But shopping was invented for the purpose of jazzing ourselves up. The quality of life for anybody living in society depends more on how much OTHER PEOPLE "love" (or merely favor) us rather than on some subjective self-absorbed navel-gazing new-age nonsense of how much we "love ourselves."
HEY! Meditation has got me through some exasperatingly rough times … I don’t know if this hyper-optimism is an intrinsic human quality or an artifact of Western culture.
You bet it is. That’s why some other cultures want to destroy this culture and way of life. 2. Perhaps the kind of sustained gluttony that leads to morbid obesity is a type of mental illness, or a manifestation of some mental illness,
Not necessarily true. Addiction or metabolic problems are medical conditions, possibly a slight correlate, but not of itself a mental illness. Tina 197/183/152 10%????
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If "yo-yo dieting" can cause a "metabolic problem" which allows a person to subsist on substantially fewer calories, why hasn’t the military exploited that? The limiting factor for infantry soldiers is how much gear they can carry. To stay alive in the field they have to carry a lot of food.
Thermodynamics 101: because the "metabolic problem" (which I don’t think exists in general) also correlates with depressed levels of physical activity compared to average normals. The amount they can carry limits the length of time they can operate before resupply. If a soldier could reduce his daily calorie need via a program of yo-yo dieting, the Army would incorporate that into basic training as an essential survival skill (along with training soldiers to eat grasshoppers in an emergency). If we can believe the fantastic claims of fat acceptors, a training program of yo-yo dieting would create super soldiers, capable of sustaining field maneuvers for days on end on a fraction of the standard ration.
Only if it created an actual more efficient metabolism, which seems unlikely.
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There’s something else going on with exercise. Physical activity over time causes the muscles to store more nutrients (glycogen, creatine phosphate, and intermuscular triglycerides) and the more nutrients the muscles store, the less goes to adipose tissue. Some of the muscle gain from weight training is due to this. This is the reason why athletes, including some cardio athletes who do minimal weight training, sometimes have higher BMIs then sedentary people with similar body fat percentages. —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: PGP 8.0 – not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com Comment: Home page and email address http://www.panix.com/~ritzlart iQA/AwUBPlwJBlzVvv97bEHbEQKo7QCdHavNhpokZRXll+v3jdLkyfPI4dwAn0fL tVPG9eBlbbR51YfvC6qiLxSg =aKbf —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–
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What she says is true.
How would you know? All you have ever dated are attractive HWP women. I am stuck with a fat wife. It makes me angry. I once threatened my fat ex-fiancee Toni with a shotgun. It has convinced me to stop being an ignorant fat basher.
I am an affirmed fat basher and I don’t consider myself ignorant. I just wish that I could score attractive HWP women like you, NR. My personal information: Date of birth: November 9, 1970 Social Security Number: 549-84-6080 High School: Cordova High School, Rancho Cordova, CA Home: 8916 Castle Park Dr, Elk Grove, CA 95624 Phone: (916) 685-3627 Work Phone: (916) 227-0472
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Part of loving myself is losing weight, I will never be able to eat like other people and my grandfather always said it was the fattest hogs that froze to death first, Lee
Shh. Don’t tell Blobbi.
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Nope. A real live fat acceptor posted this to a web board. NAAFA, I believe. It was reposted here for your reading enjoyment. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last week my local newspaper published a story about a local woman who lost 144 lbs on Weight Watchers, and they had before and after pics. I wrote a letter, CERTAIN in my heart they’d never print it, but they did!! And not only did they, they left it unedited, put it at the very top with a headline ("Evidence Weighs Against Losing"), and included my name! I tried to see if it was on the website for the newspaper but its not. So tommorrow when I have more time I will type the letter out here for you all. Its rather long and I am amazed they printed it all! I explained that 96% of all dieters eventually gain back the weight plus more; that the only way someone can permanently lose weight (provided they don’t have a metabolic problem or a metabolism prob from yo yo dieting) is lifetime eating right and lifetime exercise; that I lost almost 100 lbs and don’t feel any better for it; and I listed all the negatives I could think of that I personally experienced from having lost weight. This paper has a policy of not letting letterwriters respond to other letter writers; you are only allowed to write in in response to articles. So I won’t know how people took the letter, but I can just imagine!! Here is my letter: "Weight of evidence opposes losing" (their title) To the Editor: Terry Shock may be rejoicing in her weight loss ("She’s now lighter on her feet by more than half", article Feb 13), but unless she stays on her Weight Watchers diet for the rest of her life, its likely the 144 lb loss will come back, plus more. Studies have proven that 96 percent of all dieters gain the weight back, with more to boot. Dieting is a short term measure for weight loss. For those with normal metabolisms and no other extenuating health problems,onlylifetime moderate, healthy eating combined with lifetime moderate exercise will result in permanent weight loss. I had been a big woman for about 22 years, but over the last 1 1/2 years I lost almost 100 lbs without intending to. I adopted a low-fat eating plan of my own, and combined it with daily aerobic exercise. I did this partly to treat a non-life-threatening stomach ailment I’ve had since my teen years, and also because I liked my body enough to treat it better with exercise that, I found, made me feel better. I didnt intend to lose weight, but that’s what happened. Let me fill you in on just some of the negative side effects of weight loss that the diet industry won’t tell you about, because it would cut into their multi-billion dollar business. You will have to buy new clothes almost constantly, especially if you don’t know how to sew or do alterations; you will lose weight unevenly, often resulting in a thinner upper body, yet loose skin under the arms, the belly probably won’t shrink much..you won’t be as proportional as you used to be and it will look ugly. You will have loose, wrinkly skin on your stomach and other places (like the upper arms), and no, it won’t go away even with constant exercise either. These are areas where fat used to be, but the skin didnt snap back as you assumed it would (which is why you hardly ever see "weight loss successes" in bikinis in their after pictures!) You may go through emotional confusion, especially if you spent many years as a big person and got used to it, and yes, maybe even liked being big in some ways; you may also feel cold all the time–your excess fat previously insulated you from that; you may become more prone to osteoporosis, a bone ailment affecting primarily only slender women, and for which being slender is a risk factor (estrogen is stored in fat cells, and estrogen is a primary protectant against osteoporosis.) Weight loss is not all its cracked up to be. Many women who have been fat all their lives (unlike myself) seem to think that losing weight is a magic bullet that will make their entire lives happy. It won’t. I was thin years ago and life wasn’t any better for me then. In some ways, it was worse. Don’t fool yourselves. Loving yourself is the magic bullet to improve your life, not changing your body.
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In article Fooled by yet another troll who doesn’t know all the facts. Anita did not post the message to all these groups (check the headers; it was reposted).
Reposting (something that happens all the time) is not trolling, sweetheart. The fact that the orginal author did not post it here does not distract from it’s message. I thought you people learned this one by now. We’ve been over it quite a number of times now… Anita happens to have lost a lot of weight recently due to some medical condition, so what exactly is she addicted to?
Lies, societal approval, obfuscation of facts, the Fat Acceptance movement….
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(but sure, you want a number don’t you? let’s say 80. cumulative for the day? 1430.) i tried to pack your "meals" with substantial stuff like bread, potatos, and protein. those really tie me over until the next meal — i like that "full" feeling too — so my portion size tend to run pretty high too. I would actually take this mock menu and assign myself heavy and light days. like on a heavy day i’d eat 1500 (cut out some of the foo foo veggies and grab myself some mashed potato or whatever.) (or cut out some of the oils and treat myself to a larger plate of pasta.) and then next day I’d cut down to 1300 or 1200 (you can’t have walnuts for snack EVERYDAY, can you?, and hot pockets EVERYDAY? that’s just silly, how about two boiled eggs instead?) a formerly anorexic friend of mine told me that she used to mix her days up calorie wise so her body "never" knows how much to predict. She’d eat more on the weekends so that she can starve herself on the weekdays — hey it worked for her. she’s still a bean pole but nowadays she eats a good 1500 a day. Rumor has it that sometimes she has been spotted to eat a whole half of a snicker’s candy bar. (i’ll believe it when i see it.) and diet is such an ugly word. I prefer it to call it "my precious." second meal: 
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